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Hi all - 4 years later...

I got this tip from MadCap but have not investigated myself if successful. Someone want to try? Drawbacks? (originally we wanted help to have a stop list for other languages)

Background info:
Hello XX
We have a work-around for this issue.
Through the use of Language ...

So no one is translating the web help to other languages?

I understand you because its not at all optimized for this.

What echopraxia said.

We have a working TOC navigation in flare 8 for our project so this is only negative for us.
Im trying to convince my boss not to move to 9. This is a drawback.
And prettify the url or obfuscate is only a workaround, and a bad one. Extra steps that I have to take.
Also when ...

So I'm guessing they're saying that Google is using the URLs in the TOC instead of the direct URLs, so when Google fashions a response, it's returning the URL as it's constructed in the TOC.

That's my guess anyway.


Yes

Thats the big question....

However I think Im under wrong impressions ...

Some of my phrase searches in the WebHelp output are not being found. Having read this thread http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10840&p=61622&hilit=search+phrase#p61622 - which led to the install of Dave Lee's plug-in (thamk you very much, Dave) so was not wasted :) - I am ...

Honestly, I don't know how the search is working. The release is currently being reviewed by our in-country reviewers. I will ask them specifically about search and let you know.


Do you know the implications of no stop list in other languages?

It means that those words is being ranked.

E:G if ...

As for the TOC not being loaded when entering a topic from Google... You pointed to a WebHelp topic opened via CSH; that's the way it's supposed to open, unless you specify a skin in the URL, which that link didn't. However, the topic does have a link at the top that says "Open with navigation ...

In my Help ToC, I had a "Concepts" section.
Bosses/reviewers want it to go away. Its content is to be brought into other sections, mostly Admin & Maintenance which is ... big.

Now, those same bosses and reviewers want certain pages to be much easier to find. At the moment, they are two or three ...

Actually no help topic has ever been writen on the way Flare search engine is working ? or am I wrong ? :)
Horchata


Im also missing this. There is only little documentation regarding this. We see several limitations in flare search. We need improvements & information regarding e.g. search in ...

Hi Guys and girls

Do any of you use the webhelp translated into other languages?

What are your solution regarding stop list / Exclude list on those languages for the search?

Have you considered it, did some work around, or you do not use the flare search at all?

We find the flare search to have ...

Hi

Flare 9 says to be better for Google optimization. http://bayimg.com/BAlbHAAeO

But can anyone confirm that it still has the issue with the TOC, (Default.htm#) not being loaded when entering a topic from Google? (look here, you dont get the TOC directly(flare 8 though) http://webhelp ...

Hi how is flare search working for you in chinese, japanese?
Do you have stop words for those languages?

Do you know about: Stop list/ exclude list?

From Flare's internal help
You are here: Features > Search > About Search

6.(Optional) Include stop words in search Flare has a "stop words" list behind the scenes that omits certain common words (such as "an" and "the") when users perform searches. However, if you would like those common words ...

Some of my phrase searches in the WebHelp output are not being found. Having read this thread http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=10840&p=61622&hilit=search+phrase#p61622 - which led to the install of Dave Lee's plug-in (thamk you very much, Dave) so was not wasted :) - I am ...

See this article in the MadCap knowledgebase:
http://kb.madcapsoftware.com/default.htm#cshid=OUTA1008F

The search can also include/exclude index terms in your topics, which is set in the target.

How much weight is given to the different types, can it be modified?
It will help me understand in ...

Is this uncharted territory?

Hi, is this still correct though? since in below matrix it should work with only WebHelp 2.0 (HTML5)
http://webhelp.madcapsoftware.com/flare8/Default.htm#Output/HTML_Help_Output/About_HTML_Help_Output.htm

It's still correct, there's been no change to WebHelp Plus.

The matrix says "Search non ...

Hi
I can see that meta name="description" is taken into consideration when doing a flare search, but is meta name="keywords" used by flare search engine?
Cant find any info in help section. I don't want to use invisible words as it is a Google 'no-no'.

http://webhelp.madcapsoftware.com/flare8 ...

You'll probably find that happens when the phrase includes words like "to" , "and", "is" - which are called 'stop-words' in Flare.

By default, Flare doesn't include 'stop-words' when it builds the search. Therefore, you won't get any results when searching for those words individually or as part ...

Hi,

Does anyone know of a way to have Flare's search index PDF content?

You should be able to do that using WebHelp Plus.

When end users perform a search in your online output, you can ensure that non-XHTML files (e.g. PDF, DOC, XLS) are included in that search. The files do not even need to ...

See this article in the MadCap knowledgebase:
http://kb.madcapsoftware.com/default.htm#cshid=OUTA1008F

The search can also include/exclude index terms in your topics, which is set in the target.

How much weight is given to the different types, can it be modified?
It will help me understand in ...

Hi how exactly does the search rank work in Flare?
If I search for a phrase without quotes does it sum the occurrence of each word and the topic with the most value gets in top?

or is it calculating based on context in some way?

example


search parameter: news of aeroplane landing

number of ...