Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

This forum is for all Flare issues related to PDF, eBook, Microsoft Word, Adobe FrameMaker, XPS, and XHTML book targets.

Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby cmastr22 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:37 pm

Just trying to reduce my amount of work. I can create a 2 column page layout from scratch, but I thought if someone already HAD one and was willing to share, I'd be very grateful. :D
cmastr22
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby cmastr22 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:41 pm

Here's what the document looks like now. It's in Word and we want to convert it to Flare.
cmastr22
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby cmastr22 on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:44 pm

Well, shoot.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
cmastr22
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby doc_guy on Tue Apr 23, 2013 2:56 pm

Take the 1 column one you are currently using for body text, right click on it, and set it to two columns.

It seems that adjusting my layout to match the other pages already in your layout would be a lot harder than converting your existing single column layouts to accommodate 2 columns. Or did I misunderstand?
User avatar
doc_guy
Propellus Maximus
 
Posts: 1956
Joined: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:18 am
Location: Crossroads of the West

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby wclass on Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:07 am

Are you having trouble generating a Word output document with 2 columns? There is still a bug in Flare where it can't create multiple columns (the page layouts work fine in PDF if that is suitable for your output).
If you need this in Word I suggest you add to the bug reports: https://www.madcapsoftware.com/feedback/bugs.aspx
Margaret Hassall - Melbourne
wclass
Propellus Maximus
 
Posts: 1233
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:56 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby cmastr22 on Thu Apr 25, 2013 7:49 am

I don't currently have a 2 column page layout. I'm asking if anyone has a 2 column page layout that they could share with me. I currently have numerous 1 column page layouts, but can't figure out how to make it a 2 column.
cmastr22
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby wclass on Thu Apr 25, 2013 4:37 pm

If you create a test project using the Sample or Book templates then there is a page layout for the Index in there that you could use as a base - it has multiple columns etc. Prefer not to send anything with our corporate logos, etc, and also, the Index example includes left and right pages so it is more complete than anything I have.

To set a page layout with 2 columns:
In the page layout, there are 2 options in the right-click menu - "Properties" and "Page Properties". The first is for the frame properties and will let you change the columns, the second the page size and orientation, among other things. You can also get to the Properties by double-clicking the body frame, and you can get Page Props by double-clicking in an area in the layout that is the page margin.
Hope this helps.
Margaret Hassall - Melbourne
wclass
Propellus Maximus
 
Posts: 1233
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:56 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby cmastr22 on Fri Apr 26, 2013 2:15 pm

Thank you! I ended up modifying one of our existing one column layouts to a 2 column. Not as hard as I thought.
cmastr22
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:20 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby dalogan on Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:46 pm

What about two or even three columns for online help. Not using a table. When you use a table project wants to use the table.css. I want to do HTML5 output with multiple columns using my regular stylesheet.
dalogan
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 11
Joined: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:12 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby LTinker68 on Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:21 pm

dalogan wrote:When you use a table project wants to use the table.css.

Only if you tell it to use that table stylesheet.

dalogan wrote:I want to do HTML5 output with multiple columns using my regular stylesheet.

When you insert the table, just don't point it to any of the table stylesheets. It will then use the table-related tags in the topic stylesheet.
Image

Lisa
Eagles may soar, but weasels aren't sucked into jet engines.
Warning! Loose nut behind the keyboard.
LTinker68
Master Propellus Maximus
 
Posts: 7245
Joined: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:38 pm

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby jbananak on Tue May 19, 2020 3:00 am

HI
I can create 2 body frames in a page layout document. But the text flows automatically from column to column. (And the h1 has the number in the first column and the text in the 2nd column.)
I need to know how to create a document in which there are 2 columns (of different widths), where from page to page, the text flows in the same column, and does not flow into the other column.
Would love some help please.
Thanks
Joanna
jbananak
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 51
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 2:45 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby robdocsmith on Tue May 19, 2020 2:55 pm

Hi Joanna,

It depends what you are trying to achieve. You can't maintain two separate body flows of text but you can simulate the effect in various ways. Here's a few off the top of my head:

- You can create two text frames on a page template and have only one of them as a body frame. This will allow text to flow only in that body frame from page to page. The other frame would have to be a decoration frame containing static text.
- You can create two column layouts on your page either using separate body frames for unequal columns or right clicking a body frame and specifying it has x number of columns for equal columns.
- If you want headings to be in a separate 'column' from the body text, You can create a 'two column effect' by using margin or padding space in styles to offset body text from headings.
- You could use a two column layout and liberal use of column breaks in your page content (or better, in a style definition) to control where text falls on a page.

Cheers,
Rob
robdocsmith
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 3:11 pm

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby jbananak on Tue May 19, 2020 11:36 pm

HI Rob
When you say "static text" you mean that the same will appear on all pages?
jbananak
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 51
Joined: Thu May 03, 2012 2:45 am

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby robdocsmith on Wed May 20, 2020 9:15 pm

Yes, anything that is defined in a decoration frame in a page layout such as images or text will appear on all pages that use that layout. So if you've a decoration frame on a Left page layout, the contents of the frame will appear on all Left pages in the document. I use decoration frames for things like a company logo or a coloured bar at the start of each chapter.

Rob
robdocsmith
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 3:11 pm

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby vpierce27 on Thu Jun 25, 2020 9:59 am

So, I'd also like to create a two column layout where each column has unique content (no over-flow on a page) that each carry from page two page. After reading the above comments, I know that having two body text boxes won't work and I know that a decoration text box won't work. So question from a super novice: am I limited to the types of text boxes available now? I see Header, Footer, Body, and Decoration.
vpierce27
Jr. Propeller Head
 
Posts: 1
Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2020 12:14 pm

Re: Does anyone have a 2 column page layout to share?

Postby robdocsmith on Thu Jun 25, 2020 4:45 pm

Hi,

Yes, there are just five types of Frame you can use:
Body, Header, Footer, Decoration, Image

Decoration and Image frames are unsupported in Word or Framemaker output.
Each page layout can contain just one Header or Footer frame, but you can have many Body frames.

The only way I can see to have two separate flows is a very tall two column table with content 1 in cell 1 and content 2 in cell 2. I've never tried this though and I imagine it could create layout issues. I'm not sure if you could independently force paragraphs to start at the top of the next page for instance.
Or perhaps instead of a table, have a two column page layout and create styles that force various bits of text to either start at the next column or to start on the next page depending on whether it needs to go in column 1 or column 2:
Code: Select all
h1.col1 {
   page-break-before: always;
}
h1.col2 {
   column-break-before: always;
}

You'd have to make sure the text that followed each column wasn't longer than the page height otherwise it would throw out all the pagination.

Rob
robdocsmith
Propeller Head
 
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu May 24, 2018 3:11 pm


Return to Printed Documentation Targets

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 4 guests