How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topics
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How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topics
Hi There,
I've been having trouble with this feature since I upgraded to 2017 r2.
I want to get rid of the "Open topic in Navigation" option for the entire project as it is causing data retrieval issues. How do I best get rid of this option from the entire project?
Much thanks
I've been having trouble with this feature since I upgraded to 2017 r2.
I want to get rid of the "Open topic in Navigation" option for the entire project as it is causing data retrieval issues. How do I best get rid of this option from the entire project?
Much thanks
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
It's a skin setting - see the help here:
http://help.madcapsoftware.com/flare201 ... Topics.htm
http://help.madcapsoftware.com/flare201 ... Topics.htm
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
I have Unchecked both boxes in the Topic Settings in the set up yet stand alone topics continue to be opened with that option at the top.
I'd prefer that when opening ANY topic, the navigation pane opens instantly, without needing to click the link either at the top or bottom of the page.
I'd prefer that when opening ANY topic, the navigation pane opens instantly, without needing to click the link either at the top or bottom of the page.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
I've actually found your blog:
https://ukauthor.wordpress.com/2014/08/ ... tion-skin/
I'm looking to open all topics from the navigation pane automatically without needing to click the link. I'd need a layman's guides since I'm a bit new to Madcap's features.
https://ukauthor.wordpress.com/2014/08/ ... tion-skin/
I'm looking to open all topics from the navigation pane automatically without needing to click the link. I'd need a layman's guides since I'm a bit new to Madcap's features.
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Unchecking both boxes will switch it off - I don't know what to suggest other than to double-check that you've edited the skin that's used by your target.Iocus_Rood wrote:I have Unchecked both boxes in the Topic Settings in the set up yet stand alone topics continue to be opened with that option at the top.
I'd prefer that when opening ANY topic, the navigation pane opens instantly, without needing to click the link either at the top or bottom of the page.
Have you followed the article steps on 'How to do this' ?Iocus_Rood wrote:I've actually found your blog:
https://ukauthor.wordpress.com/2014/08/ ... tion-skin/
I'm looking to open all topics from the navigation pane automatically without needing to click the link. I'd need a layman's guides since I'm a bit new to Madcap's features.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
It's very strange, though I'm sure I'm missing something obvious.
My Target is HTML5 and the skin I'm using has had the navigation link toggled off, yet when I pull up pages standalone in the final output the link is still there.
I have tried to make certain that the skin I've configured is the one used by the target.
To give a bit of context, I'm publishing the project, and transferring the final output on to a network sharepoint that is used by our software. After several attempts to keep the "Open topic with navi" link, it still remains when I open single pages from the help screen in our software.
My Target is HTML5 and the skin I'm using has had the navigation link toggled off, yet when I pull up pages standalone in the final output the link is still there.
I have tried to make certain that the skin I've configured is the one used by the target.
To give a bit of context, I'm publishing the project, and transferring the final output on to a network sharepoint that is used by our software. After several attempts to keep the "Open topic with navi" link, it still remains when I open single pages from the help screen in our software.
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Rather than check Sharepoint, I would first check the output on your local drive - does that include the links?
If your software is linking directly to the help topics, then I'd suggest that you use CSH calls to link to your help instead.
Using the 'URL method' is fairly easy: http://help.madcapsoftware.com/flare201 ... lopers.htm
If your software is linking directly to the help topics, then I'd suggest that you use CSH calls to link to your help instead.
Using the 'URL method' is fairly easy: http://help.madcapsoftware.com/flare201 ... lopers.htm
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Where would the info on the navigation link be saved? I figured it would be in the 'Skins' folder. But uploaded the newest output from there to the end point it still has the link up top.
I do apologize for my ignorance.
I do apologize for my ignorance.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
I've done a bit more investigating and have found the line of code responsible for the "Open nav" link.
The MCWebHelpFrameset line determines if the topic opens with the link.
I'm still just trying to determine where the information on Skin configuration is saved.
I did check out that link you posted from Madcap's help. It is all very Greek to me and I'm not sure how to do about it.
The MCWebHelpFrameset line determines if the topic opens with the link.
I'm still just trying to determine where the information on Skin configuration is saved.
I did check out that link you posted from Madcap's help. It is all very Greek to me and I'm not sure how to do about it.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
I've also gone back and unchecked the "Show navigation link" boxes in all potentially used skins and the final output STILL opens standalone topics with a nav link.
I am very confused as to why
I am very confused as to why
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Did you check the output on your local drive, before you uploaded it?Iocus_Rood wrote:Where would the info on the navigation link be saved? I figured it would be in the 'Skins' folder. But uploaded the newest output from there to the end point it still has the link up top.
I'm asking this because when you're viewing the output on your server, you might be looking at an old version of the page.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Opening single topics locally doesn't produce a navigation link, but it also doesn't display the navigation plane either.
By checking it locally do you mean opening the final HTML file in the output? Or to check topics individually?
By checking it locally do you mean opening the final HTML file in the output? Or to check topics individually?
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
I meant check the output that you build on your own PC - browse to the output folder, and open a topic directly.Iocus_Rood wrote:Opening single topics locally doesn't produce a navigation link, but it also doesn't display the navigation plane either.
By checking it locally do you mean opening the final HTML file in the output? Or to check topics individually?
As you have opened a topic locally, and it doesn't include the link, then it means your changes to the skin have worked.
If you're not seeing the same in your published/online version, then it means it is not up to date, or you're looking at an old/cached version of the topic in your browser.
Opening a topic directly will not show the navigation pane. It's better to use a CSH link, which will display the navigation.
If you don't want to use CSH, you can use the technique I described in my blog to automatically open a topic with navigation.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
What I'm shooting for is for all topics opened standalone will automatically open with the navigation pane in place.
The link has indeed disappeared, but I'd prefer it open into the navigation pane. Is that the process described in your blog? For all topics to automatically open with all navigation options?
The link has indeed disappeared, but I'd prefer it open into the navigation pane. Is that the process described in your blog? For all topics to automatically open with all navigation options?
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Yes, that's the solution in my blog post - if you open a topic directly, it'll re-open it with the Tripane skin/navigation.Iocus_Rood wrote:What I'm shooting for is for all topics opened standalone will automatically open with the navigation pane in place.
The link has indeed disappeared, but I'd prefer it open into the navigation pane. Is that the process described in your blog? For all topics to automatically open with all navigation options?
I'd still advise using a CSH link where possible for any links to your help.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
a CSH link does exist as part of the output. How exactly does one use that as the basis for opening all documents? Would that be in your blog as well?
Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Where you have links to your help, I'd recommend using a CSH link, rather than have direct links to topics. A CSH link will open the help with navigation.Iocus_Rood wrote:a CSH link does exist as part of the output. How exactly does one use that as the basis for opening all documents? Would that be in your blog as well?
Other people might bookmark or have direct links to your topics - in those situations, then the solution in my blog will open the topic with the navigation.
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Re: How to remove "Open topic with navigation" from all topi
Is the article relevant to this issue the one I linked above? (https://ukauthor.wordpress.com/2014/08/)