online table versus printed table

[bonnie]

I have been trying to produce a printed table in FrameMaker that is slightly different than the one that appears in my WebHelp. I am trying to follow the method described under "Creating Table Styles for Print Output" in the Flare help. But I am not able to get two different results. (Specifically, what I'm trying to get is different border and separator line widths.)

Here's what I did:
1. Made two different TableStyles (Table_A and Table_A_print).
2. Right-clicked in the table and selected Table Properties.
3. In the Table Properties db, selected Table_A as the table style.
4. Clicked on the Print Style button and selected Table_A_print from the list that appears in the Select Table Style db.
5. Clicked OK.
6. Clicked OK.
7. Saved all files.

But whichever TableStyle I select for Step 2 is what I get in both the WebHelp and the FrameMaker output.

I'm using the default medium for the WebHelp ouput and I made a framemaker medium for the FrameMaker target. So...I'm not sure if that figures into the mix or not. I figure it must...somehow.

Could someone please explain what I am missing here?
Thanks,
Bonnie

[forfear]

In the Target settings for your FrameMaker Target,
In Advanced tab, is the Stylesheet Medium set to your correct medium.

With regards to tables, i imagine your framemaker could be using the 'print' medium. ---aka the Print Style.
Also in Table Properties, have you checked the table styles


PS. am not a heavy framemaker user.

Table-PrintMedium.png

[bonnie]

In the Target settings for your FrameMaker Target,
In Advanced tab, is the Stylesheet Medium set to your correct medium.

Yes. I have the default medium specified for the WebHelp target, and I have made a "framemaker" medium and have that specified for the FrameMaker target.

With regards to tables, i imagine your framemaker could be using the 'print' medium. ---aka the Print Style.
Also in Table Properties, have you checked the table styles

It doesn't matter which TableStylesheet I select via the Print Style button, both the WebHelp and the FrameMaker target use the TableStylesheet specified under the Basic > Table Style part of the Table Properties db.

So...it seems that the "Print Style" specification isn't working right.

Bonnie

[forfear]

I uess this is the place to go next. To submit a bug/feature request.

https://www.madcapsoftware.com/bugs/submit.aspx

The more posts there are on a specific topic the more likely it will get included in a future release.

[bonnie]

I have reported this as a bug.

[bonnie]

It doesn't matter which TableStylesheet I select via the Print Style button, both the WebHelp and the FrameMaker target use the TableStylesheet specified under the Basic > Table Style part of the Table Properties db.

So...it seems that the "Print Style" specification isn't working right.

OK. I have gotten the word on this situation from MadCap. It turns out that I had made a new medium (named "framemaker ") and was trying to use it for my FrameMaker documents. The alternate TableStylesheet selected via the Print Style button on the Table Properties db only applies to the medium named "print". (There is a work-around for this. If anybody wants it, just say so, and I'll post it here.)

Bonnie

[Harrison73]

OK. I have gotten the word on this situation from MadCap. It turns out that I had made a new medium (named "framemaker ") and was trying to use it for my FrameMaker documents. The alternate TableStylesheet selected via the Print Style button on the Table Properties db only applies to the medium named "print". (There is a work-around for this. If anybody wants it, just say so, and I'll post it here.)
Bonnie

I had followed exactly the same steps as you, and run into exactly the same problem with my print table styles not displaying in Frame. So I'd be interested in knowing what the potential work-around might be.

thanks,
-chris

[bonnie]

I had followed exactly the same steps as you, and run into exactly the same problem with my print table styles not displaying in Frame. So I'd be interested in knowing what the potential work-around might be.

This is the question I posed to MadCap:
How do I change the "framemaker" medium that I have created so it knows that it is supposed to use the TableStyleSheet indicated as the Print Style on the Table Properties db?

This is the response I received:
In order to do this, you would need to add this code inside of the <table> tag at the beginning of your table:
MadCap:mediastyle="@media framemaker { mc-table-style: url('Resources/TableStyles/Table_A_print.css'); }"

So what that means is that you will have to insert this code for every table.
Bonnie

[Harrison73]

So what that means is that you will have to insert this code for every table.
Bonnie

Thanks! That started to seem like alot of work, so I just ended up renaming my "FrameMaker" medium to "print" and doing away with the default "print" medium. I hope the Flare documentation will add some clarity on this matter going forward, since everything I tried to do seemed reasonable based on what I read.

[bonnie]

I just ended up renaming my "FrameMaker" medium to "print" and doing away with the default "print" medium.

That's essentially what I did too.

[forfear]

And i thought i knew all there was about Flare. Brilliant post with feedback back to the community. Brilliant work Bonnie!

[bonnie]

Well, thank you very much for the high praise, forfear. I think perhaps persistent is is what I am. I have a lot at stake right now trying to get Flare to cooperate with me. And I look forward to your insight in helping me figure out Flare, since I still have a looooooong way to go in that respect.
Bonnie