Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

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Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby TeSol on Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:21 pm

Hi,

This is another breadcrumbs questions. Apologies if this has been asked before - but despite searching within the forum I could not find anything about this.

My problem is -

All my topics are linked to the TOC. This therefore goes up to almost 6 levels. Now in the TOC I am able to restrict entries (using Conditional text) so that only 4 levels of TOC appear. But when I access a topic that is in the 5th and 6th level (through internal links) the breadcrumbs path is not displayed. This is strange considering that it is taking the master page settings correctly and I have set the breadcrumbs count in the CSS to 9 (maximum).

I need to have the TOC with only 4 levels (as it is now) but the breadcrumbs in all the topics. It shows only for topics that are in the TOC now - i.e. 4 levels. I want it to show for all 6 levels.

Any ideas on how I can achieve this? Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks and regards.
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby Dave Lee on Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:31 am

The breadcrumbs will match the TOC structure in the output; so if you use conditions to exclude topics from the TOC, then those topics won't have breadcrumbs.
If you want the topics to have breadcrumbs, then the simple answer is not to exclude them from the TOC.


The only way to achieve what you're describing is to set up a browse sequence, and use that instead of the TOC (i.e. in the skin, switch off the TOC and switch on the browse sequence). Then your topic breadcrumbs would follow the TOC structure, but the user would navigate using the browse sequence which could have a different structure. Note that a drawback of using browse sequences is that they don't support TOC synchronisation.

However, I think I'd find it confusing if the 'contents' and breadcrumbs didn't match.
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby crdmerge on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:20 am

Could you create browse sequences for those non-TOC L4/L5 topics? AFAIK, you can create multiple sequences (I personally haven't used them in ages, and not in this tool, either). Maybe other users with Flare browse-sequence experience could chime in.

Good luck,
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby Dave Lee on Wed Feb 08, 2012 5:53 am

crdmerge wrote:Could you create browse sequences for those non-TOC L4/L5 topics? AFAIK, you can create multiple sequences (I personally haven't used them in ages, and not in this tool, either). Maybe other users with Flare browse-sequence experience could chime in.

Good luck,
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Yep, that's what I said just above - use the browse sequence as your contents (instead of the TOC), and topic breadcrumbs will use the TOC structure.
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby TeSol on Wed Feb 08, 2012 7:16 am

Thanks Dave and Leon...but :(

Created the browse sequence and linked to the TOC. Apart from the synchronisation problem, another issue is that the Browse sequence accordion item is now last in the list..should have been first. But while I can live with that, the L5 onwards topics still do not show the breadcrumbs....so this cannot be used as a solution :(...Unless I am missing something?
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby crdmerge on Wed Feb 08, 2012 8:21 am

No TOC entry = No breadcrumbs. Sorry.

You could always fake breadcrumbs in the non-TOC topics, but there's the maintenance issue there.


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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby Dave Lee on Wed Feb 08, 2012 9:16 am

TeSol wrote:Thanks Dave and Leon...but :(

Created the browse sequence and linked to the TOC. Apart from the synchronisation problem, another issue is that the Browse sequence accordion item is now last in the list..should have been first. But while I can live with that, the L5 onwards topics still do not show the breadcrumbs....so this cannot be used as a solution :(...Unless I am missing something?


You won't get any breadcrumbs if you're still excluding the topics in the TOC. The entries will need to be in the target's TOC (whether displayed or not) to get breadcrumbs in your topic, as already mentioned. So you need to switch off the 'exclude' for those conditions in the target (or remove the conditions from the TOC).

I think the only way to reorder the accordion items is to edit the skin file in the text editor, and change the sequence; e.g.
Code: Select all
Tabs="BrowseSequences,Index,Search,Glossary,Favorites"
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby Michelle_Gardner on Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:17 am

@TeSol, did you ever find a solution for this? I, too, want to see breadcrumbs in topics that are Level 4 or more in the TOC, but I don't want my TOC for the SideNav and hamburger menus to be longer than, say, 5 levels.
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Re: Breadcrumbs for topics not in TOC

Postby TeSol on Sun May 05, 2019 11:23 pm

Hi Michelle,

Sorry...never managed to get it to work the way I wanted (and you too).
I've just got the latest Flare (2019) and will need to play around with it to see if it can be achieved with this version.
Will post a reply if I am successful.

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