Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by Lucia »

Hello,

I'm using a trial version of Flare 6.1.

I'm trying to import an HHP project, but after the files are imported, I can't see the topic content, just a <body></body>.

Why is this happening? I must be missing something.

I also tried to copy and paste some topics directly in the Project's Content foldes, but when I try to open the topics, Flare asks if I want to open the "Convert to XML wizard". I click Yes, but when I convert, the same <body></body> is shown where the content should be :-(

Hope somebody can help me soon... Starting to doubt I can have success with the convertion...

Thanks a lot
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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If you open the topic in the Internal Text Editor, do you see other tags and content or just the opening and closing body tag with nothing between it? If you see other tags, then check the body tag in your stylesheet to see if there's something funky set on it, like display set to none or font color white.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by Lucia »

Hi Lisa,

When opening the topic in the Internal Text Editor, I have this:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<html xmlns:MadCap="http://www.madcapsoftware.com/Schemas/MadCap.xsd">
    <head><title></title>
        <link rel="stylesheet" href="..\Primary.css" />
    </head>
    <body />
</html>
But in the project, some topics do appear!
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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Yeah, that's a completely blank topic.

If some topics do appear then I'd say either that topic was initially blank in the source, or Flare attempted replicate something from the original but it didn't understand what it was supposed to do with the source material so it created a blank topic. Can you tell from the file name if the file is actually supposed to be a topic with content, or does it seem more like a feature that was available in the source program?
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by Lucia »

Yes, they are topics with content.

One of the topics that isn't displaying the content is "CURSOREQ".

In Flare, the code is like this:

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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<html xmlns:MadCap="http://www.madcapsoftware.com/Schemas/MadCap.xsd">
    <head><title></title>
        <link rel="stylesheet" href="..\Primary.css" />
    </head>
    <body />
</html>
In the original file, like this:

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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
<html>

<head>
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" Content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252">
<title>CursoReq</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 6.0">
<link REL="stylesheet" TYPE="text/css" HREF="../SeniorStyle.css">
<meta HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" Content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252">
</head>

<body BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000">

<table class="TabelaC">
  <tr>
    <td><img src="../images/vetorh.gif" width="30" height="30"></td>
    <td class="CelulaC"><h1>CursoReq</h1>
    </td>
    <td><img src="../images/logosen.gif"></td>
  </tr>
</table>

<hr>

<p><a NAME="cursoreq"></a>Pemite cadastrar requisitos referente assuntos: Cursos
Formação, Cursos Aperfeiçoamento e Conhecimentos.</p>

<hr>
</body>
</html>


Can youse see anything that could be creating the confusions?
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by LTinker68 »

Not unless all the meta tags are throwing it off, but I've never had to do an import from anything but Word, and even that I'll copy-and-paste instead of import.

Hopefully someone else can step up with a solution. If not, you might have to contact MadCap Support.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by Lucia »

Hi Lisa,

Thanks for you help.

When you say you copy and paste contents, do you do it the way I said on my question or do you create a new topic and copy and paste the content?
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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I don't import anything. I create topics as I go and copy-and-paste from Word or whatever into the topic. That won't bring over images, so I have to manually insert them, but a lot of times I'll either have the original or I'll retake the screenshot or I'll take a screenshot of the image in the source document.

The reason I do that is I've found over the years that it's easier to design the project layout (folder organization, length of topics, etc.) for webhelp output, then work from there to generate print output. Written help from a Word document, for example, generally isn't set up the way I'd do a project for webhelp output, so instead of importing from Word and doing a lot of reorganizing, I just copy-and-paste as I go. It's a lot easier now with the paste options that were added in v4.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

Post by Lucia »

I see your points. But still, what I'm dealing with are 10 original projects, that together give me thousands of topics. Although I know that the for the new projects lots of manual reorganizing is necessary, I think that if I had to add and copy topic by topic it would take me years, and I need results as soon as possible.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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Yeah, if I had that many documents I'd probably import, too.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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Try doing the import using File -> Getting Started Wizard (instead of File -> Import Project -> Import (Non-Flare) Project).

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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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If push comes to shove you could always try contacting customer support. As you are a potential customer who won't buy the product unless you can get it to import, you might find you get some help there too. If you are allowed to by your company, you could suggest that you send them the test project you have created along with one or two of the files you're trying to import, so they can see exactly what your problem is. Give it a go, they have been really helpful when I've needed to use them.
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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ChoccieMuffin wrote:If push comes to shove you could always try contacting customer support. As you are a potential customer who won't buy the product unless you can get it to import, you might find you get some help there too. If you are allowed to by your company, you could suggest that you send them the test project you have created along with one or two of the files you're trying to import, so they can see exactly what your problem is. Give it a go, they have been really helpful when I've needed to use them.
I contacted customer support, and they found the problem: the original files that aren't imported have this tag on them:

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<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" Content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252">
I removed it from some of the original files, and they were imported with no problems.

Now I have to ask somebody what is this and why it is in so many files, and if there's any effect from removing it...
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Re: Problems when Importing (non-Flare) project

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Lucia wrote:I removed it from some of the original files, and they were imported with no problems.

Now I have to ask somebody what is this and why it is in so many files, and if there's any effect from removing it...
So, removing this tag had no effects. With the help of a programmer, this tag was deleted from thousands of topics and now, when I generate a new imported project, it's all right :-)
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