I'm a longtime TW, recent Flare user. Using Frame 10 as the docs front end, starting to use Flare 7 as a WebHelp engine, no single-sourcing. I have a CSS that is pretty solid. My imports are actually quite clean, and Frame input files are solid. I'm able to build complete WebHelp with only two error messages!
I have one main issue aside from the other topic I posted earlier (on Topic Aliases usage):
None of my bulleted or numbered lists work. Yes, I have mapped all the tags. As a first effort, I've even edited my CSS bullet lists with a list-style-type: disc; property to my bullet style selector, and recompiled, with no success. (I checked in the stylesheet editor and yes, the new property appears in the proper selectors.) I must be missing something basic. I'll keep checking things in the meantime but hoping someone can help me solve this problem. Thank you!
[*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
[*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
Last edited by rgrace on Thu Apr 14, 2011 5:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: MadCap newb, got two main issues... crossrefs and lists
I can't respond to the second problem since I don't use FM so I don't know how the importing/mapping of styles works.
For the first issue, the default xref style includes the "See" in it. If you don't want that in there then you need to modify the style. In the Stylesheet Editor, select the MadCap|xref style and change its mc-format attribute from See "{paratext}" to just "{paratext}" (or just {paratext} if you don't want quotes). Save the stylesheet. If you've inserted xrefs already, then you won't see the style change in the XML Editor until you update the xref (Tools > Update Cross-References). You don't need to do that update before you build, but if you want to see it displayed correctly in the XML Editor, then you need to manually update the xrefs in the topics.
For the first issue, the default xref style includes the "See" in it. If you don't want that in there then you need to modify the style. In the Stylesheet Editor, select the MadCap|xref style and change its mc-format attribute from See "{paratext}" to just "{paratext}" (or just {paratext} if you don't want quotes). Save the stylesheet. If you've inserted xrefs already, then you won't see the style change in the XML Editor until you update the xref (Tools > Update Cross-References). You don't need to do that update before you build, but if you want to see it displayed correctly in the XML Editor, then you need to manually update the xrefs in the topics.
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Re: MadCap newb, got two main issues... crossrefs and lists
Found and fixed the {paratext} entry. Thanks. I'm going to attempt to address the other issue in similar fashion. If anyone else has other ideas on handling list formats properly, please feel free!
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Re: [*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
I came over from FrameMaker 7, I don't know much about Frame10.
In Frame 7 we had two number styles:
Number 1 & Number 2+. Number 1 started the list, and Number 2+ continued the list between paragraphs. It would flow something like this:
(Number 1 ) 1.
(Number 2+) 2.
(Number 2+) 3.
(Number 2+) 4.
(Number 2+) 5.
(Number 2+) 6.
In Flare, these styles need to be mapped to <p> styles that contain mc-auto-numbering formats. I created p.Number_1 and P.Number_2. Here is what they look like in the stylesheet:
I set the mc-auto-number-format to: {n=1} and {n+}
I also did the same thing for Frame's bullet list styles. I created <p> style where I added a dot to the mc-auto-number format:
When you import, be sure to map Frame's List styles to your new Flare list styles.
In Frame 7 we had two number styles:
Number 1 & Number 2+. Number 1 started the list, and Number 2+ continued the list between paragraphs. It would flow something like this:
(Number 1 ) 1.
(Number 2+) 2.
(Number 2+) 3.
(Number 2+) 4.
(Number 2+) 5.
(Number 2+) 6.
In Flare, these styles need to be mapped to <p> styles that contain mc-auto-numbering formats. I created p.Number_1 and P.Number_2. Here is what they look like in the stylesheet:
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p.Number_1
{
clear: both;
color: #000;
font-family: Arial, Sans-Serif;
font-size: 80%;
font-weight: 400;
list-style-position: inside;
list-style-type: none;
mc-auto-number-class: zColored_Number;
mc-auto-number-format: '{n=1}. ';
mc-auto-number-offset: .25in;
mc-auto-number-position: outside-head;
padding: 3pt;
text-align: left;
vertical-align: baseline;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 7pt;
margin-bottom: 0;
p.Number_2
{
clear: both;
color: #000;
font-family: Arial, Sans-Serif;
font-size: 80%;
font-weight: 400;
list-style-position: inside;
list-style-type: none;
mc-auto-number-class: zColored_Number;
mc-auto-number-format: '{n+}. ';
mc-auto-number-offset: .25in;
mc-auto-number-position: outside-head;
padding: 3pt;
text-align: left;
vertical-align: baseline;
margin-left: 0;
margin-right: 0;
margin-top: 7pt;
margin-bottom: 0;
}
I also did the same thing for Frame's bullet list styles. I created <p> style where I added a dot to the mc-auto-number format:
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p.List_Bullets
{
margin-bottom: 3px;
mc-auto-number-format: '• ';
margin-top: 2pt;
padding-bottom: 2pt;
padding-top: 2pt;
margin-left: 16px;
}
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Re: [*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
Fantastic, I'm going to work on this right now.
Interesting CSS properties. The books I have on hand don't even mention them. Also interesting that the numbering properties from my source files did not translate at all.
By the way, I responded to your SSDs for Flare thread.
Interesting CSS properties. The books I have on hand don't even mention them. Also interesting that the numbering properties from my source files did not translate at all.
By the way, I responded to your SSDs for Flare thread.
Last edited by rgrace on Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: [*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
Cool. Hope it helps.rgrace wrote:Fantastic, I'm going to work on this right now.
By the way, I responded to your SSDs for Flare thread.
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Re: [*EDIT*] MadCap newb, got One main issue now: imported lists
Nope: edited all selectors with the desired properties and nothing works. I simply don't trust Madcap's UI-based CSS editor. I edited all the bullet and numbering tags, copied the CSS over to the right place; saw the Madcap Stylesheet editor pick up the modified properties. All the paragraphs were mapped. Ran another build and no joy. I'm going to call support.