Cannot get PageLayout working

[Pamb10]

I have created a page layout for my project. It contains 2 pages. 1 is a normal page type with a heading in the header and page number in the footer. The other is a title page type with no header or footer.

I have added the page layout to the target for printed documentation, General tab, master page layout.

When i generate the target to word, the only thing i see is a heading and page number in the footer, and only on the title page.

I must be missing something, anyone know what it is?

Thanks.
Pam

[LTinker68]

Did you add a body frame on both pages of the layout?

[Pamb10]

Sorry, my goof up. Let me restate that...

>>When i generate the target to word, the only thing i see is a heading and page number in the footer, and only on the title page. <<

I see the body content and header and footer, however the header and footer should not be showing on the title page and the title page layout does not have one.

I did realize that I must assign the page layout in the TOC and have now done that too. The title page still has an unwanted header and footer.

[LTinker68]

If the title page of your document is the first thing in the TOC, and you set it to "start a new chapter" and specified that it use the Title page type, then it should use the Title page from the page layout and all other topics should use the Normal page. Did you specify in the TOC Properties screen for your first topic that it specifically use the Title page?

[Pamb10]

The title page in the toc properties has the following Printed output settings:

checked, Start a new chapter document
Master Print Page Layout selected, page type: Title, Auto-end on 'left' page: Diabled, Chapter file name: default

[lacastle]

I see the body content and header and footer, however the header and footer should not be showing on the title page and the title page layout does not have one.

i think this is a word problem. something about not accepting title pages? i think i manually edit my title page in Word after output because of this.

some related topics:
http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/viewto ... =10&t=7631
http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/viewto ... =10&t=8933
http://forums.madcapsoftware.com/viewto ... 10&t=10291

[Pamb10]

Thats interesting because i am also fighting an issue with an image in a table. I just tested going to pdf directly and the image looks perfect. When going directly to word, the image is displayed huge and pixelated. The original image is only 37x37 pixels and is a bmp. Something interesting to note is that I have never had a problem with this table/image prior to using page layouts.

As a test i changed the target to PDF and regenerated the doc. The table/image looked perfect. There was no headers on any page, but page numbers (footers) on all pages, even when they should not be.

[Pamb10]

well i just solved the table/image problem.

i removed the "start a new chapter document" from the topic and it now comes out perfectly.

still working on headers and footers coming out properly.

[Pamb10]

ok, this does not make any sense.

I created a test toc and target, used my page layout file that contains a title page and normal page layout. The TOC contains what should be a title page (no header and footer).

First test, target was set to PDF, the topic in the TOC was set to use the title page in the page layout. It generated both a header and footer but should not have.

Second test, target was set to PDF, the topic in the TOC was set to use the normal page in the page layout. It generated both a header and footer as would be expected.

Third test, target was set to Word doc, the topic in the TOC was set to use the title page in the page layout. It generated both a header and footer but should not have.

Fourth and final test, target was set to Word doc, the topic in the TOC was set to use the normal page in the page layout. It generated both a header as would be expected.

So my question is this, do title page layouts work? Am I doing something wrong? Where do I go from here to get this issue solved?

Thanks for everyone's time.
Pam

[lacastle]

Have you tried using a "First" page instead of a "Title" page?

[Pamb10]

no difference. its like the different page layouts are not even being used.

[LTinker68]

I don't generally use one page layout for my whole output. I have a page layout with title page and empty page, but the empty page is actually used to hold the copyright info on the page after the title page. Neither of the pages in that layout have a header or footer. I have a second page layout that's for chapter content that has a first page (sometimes), left, right, and empty pages. That page layout doesn't necessarily have headers and footers on every page, though. The first page doesn't have a header, for instance, and I've never had a problem with the mix. But I've never used one page layout that had title, first, left/right (or normal), and empty, with a mix of headers and footers. It could be that there's a bug in Flare with that type of page layout or else you're doing something else that's having an affect.

If you can replicate the problem in a test project, I'd send that test project to MadCap Support and ask them to take a look at it. If you're under a deadline, then the short-term workaround is to create two page layouts, one for just the title page and one for everything else.