Word wrapping issues

[niall77]

Hi Folks,

I've tried to edit the white-space setting so that words don't wrap with a hyphen at the end of a line, but rather carry over to the next line. When I set the white-space to 'nowrap' the lines go beyond the edge of the page on print output. I thought the mc-hyphen setting would solve this but it just removes the hyphen, the word still wraps at the end of a line.

How do I resolve this? To recap, I want the words to be carried over to the next line, not wrapped with a hyphen in the middle.

Thanks,
Niall.

[niall77]

Anyone?

[ChoccieMuffin]

That's very odd behaviour. Have you made changes in the right medium? I often find that's the cause of style problems.

If you don't want any hyphens anywhere, in the PRINT medium, in the body style set mc-hyphenate to never.

[niall77]

Yes, that removes the hyphen but the word is still split over two lines. That's what I'm trying to avoid.

[Nita Beck]

Would using a nonbreaking hyphen solve the problem?

[niall77]

Where can I select that?

I've looked at the help, again, it mentions editing the 'p' text with the following step:
"In the local toolbar of the editor, click the properties icon. The Properties dialog opens."
I don't have this properties icon. Right clicking the 'p' tag doesn't offer the option. Does anyone know where it is?

[ChoccieMuffin]

I'm assuming you have a sentence or phrase with spaces in, and the last word is splitting. My thought here is that your spaces are non-breaking, so that Flare thinks that "This is a sentence with lots of words" is just one word - "This.is.a.sentence.with.lots.of.words" (where in this example the full stop stands for a non-breaking space).

To check this, look in the Text Editor and check what's between the words. If you have &160; instead of a bog-standard space, then that's the cause of your troubles. Replace the non-breaking spaces with regular ones and Bob should be your uncle.

Other than that, I don't know what to suggest. Good luck!

[Nita Beck]

Perhaps I've misunderstood the issue. (Sorry.) Are you looking for a way to not break hyphenated words across two lines? Or are you looking for a way not to automatically hyphenate any words?

[Msquared]

If you have definitely set mc-hyphenate to never, and it's definitely set in the right medium, but you are still getting a line break mid-word (albeit now without the hyphen) then I'm with Choccie Muffin. I suspect that Flare has made the line break where it has because it absolutely cannot fit a single extra character on the line, and Flare genuinely thinks it can't break anywhere else before that. So I would definitely check that you don't have non-breaking spaces between words, instead of ordinary spaces, on that line. It's easy to type these by mistake - the key combination in Flare for a non-breaking space is Shift + Space.

Another thing to consider is this. Are the words that are giving you trouble set as variables? I've found that variables don't always obey hyphenation rules.

Also, out of interest, is this happening to lots of sentences in many topics, or just to one particular sentence in one topic? And what is your output type? PDF? You may like to post a screenshot of what's going wrong too. Someone may spot something suspicious there.

[Lydia]

Where can I select that?

I've looked at the help, again, it mentions editing the 'p' text with the following step:
"In the local toolbar of the editor, click the properties icon. The Properties dialog opens."
I don't have this properties icon. Right clicking the 'p' tag doesn't offer the option. Does anyone know where it is?

A nonbreaking hyphen is inserted by using (from the Ribbon) Insert > Character

nonbreaking_hyphen.png

So this is not an overall (style) setting, but you have to do this at places, where you want a nonbreaking hyphen to appear.

Re. properties icon: you'll find this in the style sheet editor, only when in simplified view.

PropertiesButton.png

(sorry for the enormous arrow, I quickly added the default one from the pallet, which is big)

[niall77]

Hi Folks,

1. Setting mc-hyphenate to never just removes the hyphen. The word still breaks. I do not want this, I want the word to remain whole and move to the next line if possible.
2. I changed the properties of the "Enable Hyphenation" to 'never'. It still does the same as above; it just removes the hyphen but the word still splits.
3. I've checked the paragraph's structure by looking at the source code. I do not see any &160.

Regards,
Niall.

[NorthEast]

Firstly, don't use white-space: nowrap, as the purpose of that setting is to prevent text wrapping - just remove that setting altogether.
See: http://www.w3schools.com/cssref/pr_text_white-space.asp

If you start with a blank stylesheet, then the default behaviour is to wrap text at spaces and not use hyphens.
So I guess the question is, what have you set in the CSS that has changed this?

[niall77]

Hi Dave,

No, that didn't work. Setting 'no wrap' leads to the line running outside the margins of the page with some words cut off from the PDF output. All other options in that setting include the hyphen.

Thanks,
Niall.

[NorthEast]

I know it doesn't work - I said don't use the white-space setting (at all), because you mentioned that you had set it in your original post.

There are other CSS settings such as word-wrap and word-break; but I'm not sure if they apply to Flare-generated PDFs.

The default behaviour isn't to split words, so perhaps give a bit more information about what you've done - i.e. what have you set in the CSS, and does it apply to all or just some words?

[niall77]

I don't recall changing anything apart from the font, font size and things like that with the original default style sheet. I certainly didn't set anything like splitting of words at the end of the line. I can't see any specific words it applies to as such, there are so many that it's difficult to ascertain a pattern.

I just thought there'd be a simple configuration item in the CSS as other tools have.

[niall77]

I got a workaround it by editing the minimum length of a word before it's hyphenated to be something unrealistic like 20 characters.

[s909]

Where do you set the minimum length of a word? I'm also having hyphenated word wrapping issues. Thanks in advance

[Feebeegeebee]

If you're in the Stylesheet Editor and in the Simplified View (you should see "View: Simplified" in the toolbar):

• - Select the drop-down in the upper-left corner of the editor and choose Show Paragraph Styles.
  - Select the appropriate paragraph style, right mouse click and then choose Properties.
  - Click on the Hyphenation tab in the Properties Editor.
  - You can then specify the Length of shortest word that should be hyphenated

There are also settings for number of characters on the initial line & carried over on the next line.

Hope that helps.
Feebeegeebee

[s909]

Yeh, I think that fixed it. I just checked the output and it doesn't hyphenate anymore. The fix is actually a hard find!! I would definitely not have found it otherwise. Thanks for sharing.

[katrinabmg]

I had success giving the body tag a css property of mc-hyphenate: never.
To do this:
view the css -> View:Advanced
find and select the body tag.
In the Add property window on the right, add mc-hyphenate, and set the value to never.