I'm running Flare 4.2.0 and my output format is CHM. I have breadcrumbs included and they are working just fine.
A user says that if he selects a book in the TOC, right-clicks and selects print, then chooses "Print the selected heading and all subtopics" he gets a list of breadcrumbs printed, one breadcrumb for each topic in the book, but no topic information is printed.
Printing a single topic produces what you would expect -- the topic with the breadcrumbs at the top, just as you see it in the CHM file.
Something I haven't configured properly?
A known limitation of CHM?
A bug?
Thanks,
Wayne
Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
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Re: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
In your target, there should be an option to "patch stylesheet for HTML Help printing". (I forget exactly which page it's in, and I don't have Flare open at the moment.) That should solve the printing problem.
HOWEVER....
Enabling this option seems to disable the formatting in your stylesheet, so your fonts revert to HTML standard (which is usually times new roman). For this reason, I don't use this option. It's not a nice predicament to be in, but there it is....
One option you might consider is including a PDF copy of the documentation along with the CHM. This way if customers want to print topics they can print from the PDF but you can keep your stylesheet intact for the CHM.
HOWEVER....
Enabling this option seems to disable the formatting in your stylesheet, so your fonts revert to HTML standard (which is usually times new roman). For this reason, I don't use this option. It's not a nice predicament to be in, but there it is....
One option you might consider is including a PDF copy of the documentation along with the CHM. This way if customers want to print topics they can print from the PDF but you can keep your stylesheet intact for the CHM.
Until next time....

Kevin Amery
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Re: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
Thanks for that information, Kevin.
I tried it and got some interesting results.
I picked a book that had four topics under it and the printed page contained just the breadcrumbs as before.
The font was just as it appears on the screen, a non-serif font. I don't have a good enough eye to be more specific.
I'm wondering if one of the other target settings would make my results line up with your experience.
I don't have a Stylesheet Medium set, for example.
I'll try a few things.
Wayne
I tried it and got some interesting results.
I picked a book that had four topics under it and the printed page contained just the breadcrumbs as before.
The font was just as it appears on the screen, a non-serif font. I don't have a good enough eye to be more specific.
I'm wondering if one of the other target settings would make my results line up with your experience.
I don't have a Stylesheet Medium set, for example.
I'll try a few things.
Wayne
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Re: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
Oohhhh, ok - does the book in question associate with a specific topic, or is it just a container for the child topics? I'm not sure if CHM print is designed to print all children of a book. The menu item you mentioned in your first post suggests it should, but ya never know (this is microsquish we're talking about after all....)
Until next time....

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Re: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
The book is linked to a topic which is none of the four children topics.
The printout contains five lines, each of which is the breadcrumb line from the topic.
I'm not sure either about what kind of printing support CHM files offer.
I'll do some Googling to see what I can find out.
By the way, today's Gmail ad on Google is hilarious. Just what I need -- an automated answering tool for my e-mail.
Wayne
The printout contains five lines, each of which is the breadcrumb line from the topic.
I'm not sure either about what kind of printing support CHM files offer.
I'll do some Googling to see what I can find out.
By the way, today's Gmail ad on Google is hilarious. Just what I need -- an automated answering tool for my e-mail.
Wayne
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Resolved: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
The solution was the Stylesheet Medium. I had left it at "default" and, by selecting "print" I get the behavior that I wanted.
As a side benefit, all the formatting seems identical to what I see on the screen when I have the CHM file open. The font is non-serif and the page layout is just fine.
I now have a satisfied user and all is well.
Wayne
One postscript to this: During the troubleshooting, I had reversed the order of the body proxy and the breadcrumb proxy to see if that made any difference. The mechanism I used to reverse the order was to delete both and add them back in. This turns out to have been an important element of the solution. If the only change that I made was to select "print" as the Stylesheet Medium, the behavior was unchanged. In fact, it turns out that changing the Stylesheet Medium is not required to resolve the problem. Just updating the proxies is enough.
As a side benefit, all the formatting seems identical to what I see on the screen when I have the CHM file open. The font is non-serif and the page layout is just fine.
I now have a satisfied user and all is well.
Wayne
One postscript to this: During the troubleshooting, I had reversed the order of the body proxy and the breadcrumb proxy to see if that made any difference. The mechanism I used to reverse the order was to delete both and add them back in. This turns out to have been an important element of the solution. If the only change that I made was to select "print" as the Stylesheet Medium, the behavior was unchanged. In fact, it turns out that changing the Stylesheet Medium is not required to resolve the problem. Just updating the proxies is enough.
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Re: Resolved: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
Hmm, sounds odd. The Print medium is supposed to be for print output types - i.e. Word, FrameMaker, PDF, that sort of thing. Online formats like HTML Help should use the Default medium.Wayne Newberry wrote:The solution was the Stylesheet Medium. I had left it at "default" and, by selecting "print" I get the behavior that I wanted.
As a side benefit, all the formatting seems identical to what I see on the screen when I have the CHM file open. The font is non-serif and the page layout is just fine.
I now have a satisfied user and all is well.
Wayne
Until next time....

Kevin Amery
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Re: Printing from CHM gives only breadcrumbs
The default medium is used for online viewing, but the print medium is still used by web browsers when a page is printed from the website, if a print medium is included in the stylesheet.
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